Lucas Andersen

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Pastorius » 31. aug 2012, 12:35

Jesper Schmidt skrev: Det må jeg jo desværre give dig ret i, sagtens kan være tilfældet.

Hvad angår playersponsoraterne er jeg nu ikke sikker på Lucas var med der, jeg mener det var Helenius, Wichmann og Lasse. Lucas var vel kun 15 på det tidspunkt, så det ville undre mig.
Jeg er - som skrevet - ikke helt sikker på playersponsoraterne, men mener at der var 6 spillere, hvoraf kun de tre nævnte var - på det tidspunkt - kendte for os, der ikke følger ungdomsarbejdet i AaB tæt.
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Pastorius » 31. aug 2012, 12:38

AllanPedersen skrev: Faktum er så i alle acceptere det med at Lynge er en løgner.. sorry men jeg er ikke tilfreds med det her

Hvis Lynge beholder Lucas Andersen siger alle "fint, investor gruppe.. så vi har råd"
hvis han sælger ham.. så siger alle "jamen der var jo heller ikke penge alligevel"

det er sku da for tamt altså...
Lynge lyver ikke.

Men han udtaler sig som regel mere nuanceret end det bliver gengivet herinde.

Han har ret i at vi ikke har behøvet at sælge spillere i dette transfervindue for at overleve - men han har ikke sagt noget om at det måske ville have været tilfældet i det næste (og sikkert inden 31/12).

Har har heller ikke sagt at der ikke bliver solgt noget (omkring OB-kampen), men har har sagt at "som det ser ud nu" så bliver alle i AaB.
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Buzz Killington » 31. aug 2012, 12:42

Eneste lille minus i min bog er hvis de 10 millioner holder. Men Lucas har tidligere udtalt at han vil til Ajax, og AaB fattes penge. Så det kunne nok ikke være anderledes.

Så er det sgu bare at komme i gang med at få nogle mål ud af Kayke's støvler og få prøvet bette Ahlmann i nogle kampe.
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af DanishDynamite » 31. aug 2012, 12:42

Hej alle!

Having lived for a year in Copenhagen, I can understand quite some Danish but writing is a different thing, so please forgive me for writing in English. I'm an Ajax supporter and am more than grateful for having Steen Olsen as scout as he has delivered some serious talents to Ajax. I do, however, understand that it must be another story to see your biggest talents leaving - we've got that problem too. There's so much talent in Denmark. We're already joking here in Amsterdam about Frank de Boer taking over the job of Morten Olsen. With Boilesen, Eriksen, Fischer, Poulsen and probably Andersen, Denmark is well represented.

I was wondering if you guys could share some insights on both Andersen and Helenius. In what position does Andersen play best? We're in need of wingers, but although Andersen can play there, Ive heard he doesn't play currently play there at AaB. How high would you rate his talent in comparison to Eriksen? Are Andersen and Helenius rated as equally big talents as Eriksen in Denmark?

If you've got any questions, let me know. By the way, the DDK10 million speculated transfer price in the Dutch media comes from Danish press...

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Gentleman Finn » 31. aug 2012, 12:49

I dont think you can compare Eriksen and Andersen, the latter will be more fast paced and with better dribbling skills and not the same vision as Eriksen. But hes a bright kid and very professional for his age, he will develop fast. The rumour i've heard is that its around 15 mio dkk with some % if/when he moves on to a bigger club.

How big his potential is is always hard to tell, but its the right move for Lucas.

Right now Helenius is more important to our team, hes our goalscorer, Lucas seemed to really kick off this season so thats probably part of the reason he got even more interesting.

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Pastorius » 31. aug 2012, 12:50

DanishDynamite skrev:Hej alle!

Having lived for a year in Copenhagen, I can understand quite some Danish but writing is a different thing, so please forgive me for writing in English. I'm an Ajax supporter and am more than grateful for having Steen Olsen as scout as he has delivered some serious talents to Ajax. I do, however, understand that it must be another story to see your biggest talents leaving - we've got that problem too. There's so much talent in Denmark. We're already joking here in Amsterdam about Frank de Boer taking over the job of Morten Olsen. With Boilesen, Eriksen, Fischer, Poulsen and probably Andersen, Denmark is well represented.

I was wondering if you guys could share some insights on both Andersen and Helenius. In what position does Andersen play best? We're in need of wingers, but although Andersen can play there, Ive heard he doesn't play currently play there at AaB. How high would you rate his talent in comparison to Eriksen? Are Andersen and Helenius rated as equally big talents as Eriksen in Denmark?

If you've got any questions, let me know. By the way, the DDK10 million speculated transfer price in the Dutch media comes from Danish press...

mange tak! :danmarkfan:
A short comment.

It is difficult to compare Andersen and Helenius to Eriksen (and Fisher etc,). None of them played any first team-football in DK. Andersen/Helenius have been on the first team for more than a year (Helenius longer). Lucas has been a keyplayer this year on a young team that has supprised everyone (AaB supports included) positivly this season. Helenius has been a keyplayer (and topscorer) last year as well.

However Eriksen is in his own leauge, and before the move to Ajax Fisher was a bigger talent, when he played on the U-17 team together with Lucas Andersen.
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af AllanPedersen » 31. aug 2012, 12:54

DanishDynamite skrev:Hej alle!

Having lived for a year in Copenhagen, I can understand quite some Danish but writing is a different thing, so please forgive me for writing in English. I'm an Ajax supporter and am more than grateful for having Steen Olsen as scout as he has delivered some serious talents to Ajax. I do, however, understand that it must be another story to see your biggest talents leaving - we've got that problem too. There's so much talent in Denmark. We're already joking here in Amsterdam about Frank de Boer taking over the job of Morten Olsen. With Boilesen, Eriksen, Fischer, Poulsen and probably Andersen, Denmark is well represented.

I was wondering if you guys could share some insights on both Andersen and Helenius. In what position does Andersen play best? We're in need of wingers, but although Andersen can play there, Ive heard he doesn't play currently play there at AaB. How high would you rate his talent in comparison to Eriksen? Are Andersen and Helenius rated as equally big talents as Eriksen in Denmark?

If you've got any questions, let me know. By the way, the DDK10 million speculated transfer price in the Dutch media comes from Danish press...

mange tak! :danmarkfan:
While Eriksen is probably the bigger talent..

Helenius is a 100% striker... he scores goals and a lot of them.. he is big and kicks like Drogba.. and has good technique aswell

Lucas Andersen is in the vein of eriksen, small player with incredible dribling and passing skills..
Most will say Eriksen is a bigger talent, but one shouldn't forget Lucas Andersen in the age of 17.. is invited to the danish U21 team
and has player 45.. matches in the danish Superleague... that itself is incredible.


and the 10million for Lucas is in 'my personal' opinion a joke.. it should be 15 at least

I'm sorry to say I really hope you don't get both of them.. we need Helenius to score some goals this season..
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Køllen I Møllen » 31. aug 2012, 12:56

Bemærk venligst at 10 millioner + 10% af 150 millioner er mere end
15 millioner.

Ikke fordi jeg ved noget om hvordan en evt kontrakt er skruet sammen men for lige at nuancere transfersummen lidt. Man kan altså ikke bare sammenligne to spilleres transfer blot på baggrund af to tal, slet ikke hvis disse to tal stammer fra Ekstra Bladet...

Hvis AaB får 10 millioner nu er det jo nok fordi der kan falde lidt af senere også.

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af DanishDynamite » 31. aug 2012, 13:05

Thanks for feedback guys. As for Helenius, don't worry too much. Although Ajax is definitely keeping track of him, it looks like no move will be made for him today. It is true that Frank de Boer asked for a striker due to Sightorsson being prone to injuries, but Siem de Jong has proved to be much capable of replacing him, which has probably reduced the urgency of pulling in Helenius immediately.

Just curious at what position is Andersen best? Would he be capable of playing on the wings? I hope it will be a good deal on both ends.

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af AaBlover4ever » 31. aug 2012, 13:08

DanishDynamite skrev:Thanks for feedback guys. As for Helenius, don't worry too much. Although Ajax is definitely keeping track of him, it looks like no move will be made for him today. It is true that Frank de Boer asked for a striker due to Sightorsson being prone to injuries, but Siem de Jong has proved to be much capable of replacing him, which has probably reduced the urgency of pulling in Helenius immediately.

Just curious at what position is Andersen best? Would he be capable of playing on the wings? I hope it will be a good deal on both ends.
As what we have seen when playing for AaB I would definately say he plays best as an attacking midfielder. He's got a nice technique and could play as a winger, but I see him more as the attacking midfielder.

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af doukas » 31. aug 2012, 13:08

http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Lynge-Lucas-Ande ... -i-Holland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Det har været en ære at have dk's måske største talent de seneste mange år i klubben....
MO d. 12-05-2014 "Ikke engang i nærheden af hvor jeg bor hvor Ajax, Anderlecht osv. spiller - ja ikke engang der er der hold som har spillet flottere end AaB har gjort i denne sæson. Det kan vi være stolte af i DK"

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af AllanPedersen » 31. aug 2012, 13:12

doukas skrev:http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Lynge-Lucas-Ande ... -i-Holland

Det har været en ære at have dk's måske største talent de seneste mange år i klubben....
Danmarks største talent.. og transfervinduets billigste dansker..

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af BoT » 31. aug 2012, 13:17

AllanPedersen skrev: Danmarks største talent.. og transfervinduets billigste dansker..

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af AllanPedersen » 31. aug 2012, 13:19

BoT skrev:
AllanPedersen skrev: Danmarks største talent.. og transfervinduets billigste dansker..

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"Billigste dansker"? - Hvad snakker du om??
10 millioner for danmarks største talent... kan du ikke høre det er helt hen i vejret..
specielt efter Lynge har sagt vi ikke behøver sælge.. ja, ja jeg blander mig uden om
og så kan i få lov at fejre salget...
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

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AllanPedersen skrev:
BoT skrev:
AllanPedersen skrev: Danmarks største talent.. og transfervinduets billigste dansker..

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"Billigste dansker"? - Hvad snakker du om??
10 millioner for danmarks største talent... kan du ikke høre det er helt hen i vejret..
specielt efter Lynge har sagt vi ikke behøver sælge.. ja, ja jeg blander mig uden om
og så kan i få lov at fejre salget...
Der er ikke noget bekræftet omkring pris (= gætværk) og salget er ikke gået igennem endnu (Hvem ved - måske kræver Lucas spilletid på første holdet)

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Provst i Brovst » 31. aug 2012, 13:23

Quentin T skrev:
AllanPedersen skrev:I kan bare slet ikke bruge det faktum til "hvad Fischer kostede, og eriksen"... de er kommet som uprøvet talenter .. som lotto kuponer
ligesom så mange andre er kommet til Ajax.

Lucas Andersen er bevist førsteholds spiller i superligaen... og er på samme alder som Fischer da han kom til Ajax.
Fischer og Eriksen lottokuponer? Hold nu op. Fischer har overskygget Lucas i alle de ungdomslandskampe jeg har set. Lucas er en kanon intelligent spiller, men lige pt er han niveauet under Fischer.

1,5 millioner euro er en fin pris med de rette klausuler (Lucas bliver til januar og en videresalgsklausul).
Er du hardcore roligan eller hvad og ser masser af U17 kampe sammen med kliken? Arrangerer I ture rundt i landet for at følge U17?
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af BoT » 31. aug 2012, 13:27

AllanPedersen skrev: 10 millioner for danmarks største talent... kan du ikke høre det er helt hen i vejret..
specielt efter Lynge har sagt vi ikke behøver sælge.. ja, ja jeg blander mig uden om
og så kan i få lov at fejre salget...
Men hvor kommer påstanden om, at han er transfervinduets billigste dansker??

Ingen tvivl om, at Lucas er et stort talent, der angiveligt vil stige meget i værdi de kommende år. Men når man er fattig - grænsende til det katastrofale - er 10 mio. kr mange penge, som man ikke nødvendigvis kan tillade sig at sige nej til.

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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Rockafellar » 31. aug 2012, 13:27

Gad vide hva Lynge får i "modydelse" for at gå 2 mio ned i. Pris, ifølge Eb
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af Buzz Killington » 31. aug 2012, 13:30

DanishDynamite skrev:Thanks for feedback guys. As for Helenius, don't worry too much. Although Ajax is definitely keeping track of him, it looks like no move will be made for him today. It is true that Frank de Boer asked for a striker due to Sightorsson being prone to injuries, but Siem de Jong has proved to be much capable of replacing him, which has probably reduced the urgency of pulling in Helenius immediately.

Just curious at what position is Andersen best? Would he be capable of playing on the wings? I hope it will be a good deal on both ends.
When he was first introduced to the first team at the age of sixteen, he was employed mainly as a wing (both right and left if i recall). He usually came on in the last 10-20 minutes, and really made an impact. Though I think most supporters agree, that he excels as a attacking midfielder. I am not sure how the wings play in the Ajax-system, but if they are expected to roam from the wing, and occasionally move to the center, this will suit Lucas very well. But if he's expected to stick to the wing, I think a lot of his playmaking skill will be wasted.
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Re: Lucas Andersen salg nært forestående

Indlæg af AllanPedersen » 31. aug 2012, 13:33

BoT skrev:
AllanPedersen skrev: 10 millioner for danmarks største talent... kan du ikke høre det er helt hen i vejret..
specielt efter Lynge har sagt vi ikke behøver sælge.. ja, ja jeg blander mig uden om
og så kan i få lov at fejre salget...
Men hvor kommer påstanden om, at han er transfervinduets billigste dansker??

Ingen tvivl om, at Lucas er et stort talent, der angiveligt vil stige meget i værdi de kommende år. Men når man er fattig - grænsende til det katastrofale - er 10 mio. kr mange penge, som man ikke nødvendigvis kan tillade sig at sige nej til.
HOLD NU OP! med det der "vi kan ikke tillade os at sige nej" .. i sagde det samme om Helenius.. LYNGE har sagt vi godt kan tillade os at sige nej
han beviste det sågar ved at sige nej til bud på helenius.

så er Lynge en stor løgner?.. og det er fint nok men så skal jeg bare have den afklaret... Lynge er en løgner når han siger vi godt kan tillade os at beholde truppen?

Lynge kunne satme smide Lucas Andersen i en tønde og sende ham til Polen og folk ville skrive
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